€100,000 drugs seized in Moyross

@ Topper, actually what skyguy says is true, all of them are in fact not legal, shall we say they are more tolerated, but cafes and bars can hold a licence to sell what are known as soft drugs all along with your coffee!

amsterdams appraoch is more along the lines of, help the people who are addicted and have trouble getting off the hard drugs, they provide free accomodation and food facilities and free rehab for those who genuinely want to get off the drugs, instead of arresting them, giving out to them and then when they get out they go straight for the hard drugs again, amsterdam treats the problem and the person, not escalate it like here when they imprison the people who have a genuine addiction and not give them any treatment when they are locked up!

hard drugs cause genuine addiction just like alcohol and smoking. its a HSE issue not a law issue (im speaking of course outside of dealing) personal usage of drugs is an individuals silly choice, and it causes a genuine sickness called addiction, that needs to be treated with medical help. Not the law locking these people up, because it solves nothing, when they are released they run straight for what they crave again!

they are not legal, see attached link

http://www.world66.com/europe/netherlands/amste...

A lot of people come to Amsterdam for a little drug experimentation. Contrary to what most visitors seem to think, drugs are far from legal in Amsterdam.

In the Netherlands there’s a distinction made between so-called soft drugs and hard drugs. Hard drugs are Cocaine and Heroin, LSD, Ecstasy etc., soft drugs are basically marijuana, hash and mushrooms. While possession and use of the hard drugs maybe tolerated compared to the U.S. they are quite illegal and not condoned socially or by the police. Don't be the tourist arrested for buying illegal drugs on the street. Even with the soft drugs there are strict rules concerning possession and marketing.

The most f**ked up drugs are zanex, up johns, etc. IMO

@lette, I never knew cocaine and heroin was legal in Amsterdam. I thought it was just hash that was legal?????????

Lol funny.

Curly I shouldnt smile but I am....

I know people that have taken Meth, it's only a bit of crack.

Kieth, I agree with you on some points, I could care less about the pot heads is it a gateway drug for some yes for others no.I have known people that have smoked pot their whole adult lives and they are harmless. But the time to try to dicriminalize it is gone, and the guys that are dealing a bit of hash are dappling in the hard stuff also.The irish people do everything to excess its our nature! when we were religous we did that excessively, we drink smoke play laugh joke argue read rant love hate all of those things to excess its what makes us captivating as a people. We simply cant afford to dapple in drugs.

It would have been worth legalising it in the 80's and 90's before cocaine and opaites had a chance to get into the country. Without weed as a revenue stream back then the gangs would have never gotten as big, they simply wouldn't have been able to amass the funds necessary to bring coke and heroin into the country.

yeah I see Naturalbornhiller!

I did watch that documentary btw and I do no how cheap it is to make, and I said "NOT MY RESEARCH" if you care to read it, and all i said was in amsterdam as a result of cocaine and heroin being legal there is no synthetic drugs which are the worst, thats all I said, I never said I agreed with them and I certainly dont! not chemicals anyway.

as for medical purposes to legalise it?/ I dont agree, whats the difference between legalising it for medical purposes and for regular use like cigarettes (which are more of a health hazard and thats proven!)
and trust me I know, my dad has MS and in the UK there is research going on for years with regards to legalising it for pain in MS sufferers, but if its good for medicine would it not be worth while legalising it altogether? only speaking of cannabis here nothing else!

Meth is the scariest drug! The results from it on the users and the children in the homes are horrible. The only good thing about meth is you can spot a meth head and stay the hell away from them!!!! 90% of people hooked on meth say the craving starts after the first hit wears off! it is not a go on try it type drug.

Has anyones else cookie changed to naturalbornhollier??? This is Angry Man

I have seen that documentary on Meth in the states and jesus its terrible stuff. If you see pictures of people a number of months.. say 6 months after they ever first used the drug then you would never take it. Same can be said about heroin but there a number of people who will try it through either pressure, experimentation, a moment of drunkness, times of despair and sadness/depression or other reasons to escape reality. thats a fact and it will never change.

Why dont I want cannabis legalised? I understand the call for it to be legalised for medicinal puproses I have no issue with that. Obviously probably most of us here have tried it at some stage and I for one know it doesnt agree with me. I would not want my kids trying it which they could do more easily if it was letgalised. Yes I know its simple to get if you want some but at least its a bit harder to get. I know a lot of so called stoners who dont a fk about much, live in sqauller and have dead end jobs as they just like to kick back and chill out with a few smokes every evening. I know people who smoke it before, during and after work and their brains have turned mush. I can see peoples lives being wasted away by it and its just my opinion that I dont liek it. Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Have you seen the amount of fked up people walking the streets there?

I certainly dont want my kids taking it.. maybe I cant stop it no but at least I know the government havent said.. here you go.. open shops and sell the stuff. Yes it causes gangland problems.. personally I dont give a fk if these people kill each other its nothing to do with me. If it was legal there would be less gangland shootings.. yes.. but then those scumbags who dont want to work would only engage in other illegal activities to support their non-working at any cost lifestyles so I cant see how that would work. I think them drug dealing and killing each other is not a bad thing.

And alcohol is the biggest cause of problems in this country. End of story.

Lette ,dont be naive if you like to get high you will get high .And also its only a matter of time before people start making meth labs in ireland if you seriously watched that documentary then you would know how simple and cheap it is and btw sitting at home watching t.v isnt called research, and also thc is a known carcinogenic far more harmful than tobacco.But i suppose in the end its all a state of mind right !

you also dont have to be cut open or have cancer to be given Morphine, I was in hospital a few years ago very ill and I got a shot of morphine, only once and ill tell you now how much I agree with it being addictive, anything that can take pain away that quick is addictive, like I said I only had it once and I was highly impressed!

Old Dubliner, thank you but I have to only half agree with your statement, not everyone will start with cannabis and progress, it depends entirely in your nature, most of us have tried it and choose to dabble in it on occasion and all of my friends who do it anyway never have had the need to try anything stronger. Thats up to the will power of the individual.

I agree with the herbal drugs, and I have no time at all for chemicals, but I do agree it all should be legalised because then the desire to have what your not aloud will be gone, there should be an agreement perhaps of some sort of taxation, and ill leave you with this:

Did you know: in holland where all this stuff is legal, the majority of the population have never heard of the horrific Crystal meth?

Why? because when you allow one thing in this case cocaine to be legal, the public dont have to resort to stuff thats home brewed from over the counter medicines, synthetic drugs are as a direct result of making drugs illegal.

Not my research I watched a documentary about it yesterday, called: "Drug War, Americas Last White Hope"

I would recommend anyone to at least give it a look, you dont have to agree with it but its very interesting.

Not only that but its a cold hard fact (no im not lying all you have to do is research it) its a cold hard fact that many MANY more people die from the legal cigarets and alcohol every year than from any type of drug and there has never been any reported cases of people dying from cannabis and its been around forever! not one case!

Oxycotin, vicodin,hydrocdine,distalajesic,darvacat, the list goes on and on
all of these are highly addictive and some are bad for your heart. These medications are designed for pain usually chronic pain Morphine is generally used for end stage cancer because its SOO addicting its also used directly after surgery to sooth the body and mind after the trama of being cut open.
These are highly valuable medications that can be only administred by Doctors they should not be confused with smack crack or heroin.

disprin and panadol are not the only pain killers out there you know. there are some very strong painkillers on the market. alot of them are quite addictive. not sure it is still availible anywhere, but morphine is highly addictive.

keith i dont think i have ever heard of someone been muged because the mugger was strung out on disprin or panadol.and neede to get his pack of 24 before the chemists closed .i used to think that people were talkin shite when they said canabis was a gate way drug and lead to other drugs but just think about it .alcohol can be as bad as any drug but how many of us have been on a night out and started on the bud and finnished with the whiskey.its in our nature more more more more till we drop.as a former heroin addict who started with cannibas and then progressed to harder drugs i hope to god they never legalise cannibas .you can only smoke so much before the buzz becomes stagnate and you search for some thing different.any way if it was legalised you could be sure the government would tax the shite out of it so you would still have to go down the corner to buy it

It's illegal end of story.. These people have no respect for the law.. When the law is changed then Ii will pity those who are "addicted". I thought that one of the arguments for decriminilisation is that it's NOT addictive.

The main thing here is that this person was breaking the law and another law breaker is busted... Good thing for honest everyday members of society I should think. But people seem to only want to pick and choose the laws that suit themselves.. It's not an A la carte system that we have. If you want it legalized then campaign for legalization, find out if the majority want it or not and make the laws accordingly. But turning a blind eye to lawbreakers is a really slippery slope that can land us all in the shitter eventually

well said shanabooley

Keith you say:

When you do harm to others you deserve punishment, when you do harm to yourself you deserve treatment.
I agree.......

You also say:
there’s no difference between someone who is addicted to alcohol, or synthesized opiate painkillers to someone who is addicted to heroin.

A heroin addict would sell their mother for their next hit...i agree these people need and shoud be given treatment(much more than whats available...ie shag all) however they are a danger to society such are the lengths they will go to to get a hit

@Shannaboley: that's a circular argument. Keith says (I'm paraphrasing) "drugs should be decriminalised; addiction to painkillers is the same as any other addiction", and you say "no it's not - other drugs involve supporting drug dealers".

Of course drug dealers are a difference now. Keith is really talking about the hypothetical world in which they were all legal. Then, what would be the justification for outlawing cannabis and not (other) painkillers?

There is no difference between a heroin addict and someone addicted to pain killers seriously? yes there is its called a fucking drug dealer and they and there gangland behaviour are ruining the working class neighborhoods of limerick. Last time I checked Drs.fla and casey were not out there shooting each other up over turf land.

Sierra so by your logic, let's take the drugs trade out of the black market and bring down the gangs.

Angry Man, I don't understand your stance, why are you against the decrminalisation of cannabis, our own Institutions are calling for decriminalisation, there's no difference between someone who is addicted to alcohol, or synthesized opiate painkillers to someone who is addicted to heroin. The fact of the matter is that addiction to drugs isn't a criminal matter, it is a medical manner. Yet our courts and the efforts of our Gardaí are being diverted to deal with a problem that should be solely under the remit of the HSE.

When you do harm to others you deserve punishment, when you do harm to yourself you deserve treatment.

Is cannabis herb grass?

Decriminalise? Sorry I am against that.

Let the Gardai keep hitting them I say, gangs make their money from drugs . . . which we are all well aware of.

Well done Gardai.

Now if only people would stop buying it.

Ugh, lets just decriminalise the bloody stuff already. :(