Chicago, Washing DC, Jerusalem, …and Limerick

They might be pulling dead teenagers out of lifts in their own city, however, London’s Channel 5 Television seem to think that Limerick’s crime troubles are something to write home about.

The programme’s maker, investigative Journalist Donal McIntyre has even decided to ignore the ongoing feuds in his native Dublin which have claimed far more lives than any feud in Limerick City.

This week, Mayor of Limerick John Gilligan has told the Limerick post that McIntyre, who will be comparing the likes of Washington DC, Chicago,  Jeruselem and Limerick,  not to come here to glorify violence.

Filming for “The Toughest Towns” is due to commence in the new year, and McIntyre is seeking members of opposing sides in the feud to take part in the programme.

  • namedoesntmatter
    I'd love to see it anyways, just to see the city on telly!! and laugh at the heads you know but you wouldn't get anyone talkin, not a hope.

    And btw these fellas love bein called scum, they just look at it as bein called "gangsta".

    Anyway, there's not a hope of it happenin. What would it be, like? - one of the boyos sayin "we do dis, we do dat, sham nawot i mean"

    Limerick isn't mad enough to fit in with these other places, of course there are mad bastards but i'm sure there are some mad bastards in roscommon too
  • Ted
    Well all, I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to add to it due to the fact that MacIntyre is showing his programme on Thursday Night about our homeboys in Limerick City.

    I find it amusing that just 2 weeks before the programme is due to be aired, our own Limerick man "Barry Duggan" decides to release a book about crime in our City. Good to see another journalist jumping on the band wagon like Paul Williams, and lining his pockets with money from the misfortune of others.

    There are 2 sides to the coin here and I don't disagree with what Paul Williams does in exposing the scumbags but I would like to highlight that there was no need for Barry Duggan to write the new book "Mean Streets" . The national media has already highlighted the problems in Limerick and thankfully the city is involved in regeneration. I read the book and found that it explains everything that we know aleady and how the Government has failed all of these people.

    I think "enough is enough" with all of this negitive reporting, and publicity.

    Unfortunately, Limerick will always be labelled stab city and we'll never shake off the smart comments from others outside the county. It would help if our own stopped reporting and continuing the process of keeping Limericks problems in the headlines. We need reporters to start reporting positively and start changing public perceptions of our great city. Thankfully now we have the ERU, CAB and the Regeneration in place in Limerick, we have what we need. time to move on.

    If I were Barry Duggan I'd donate all proceeds from the book towards the regeneration areas. I'm sure his proceeds would set up a nice astroturf in The Island, Westen, Southill and Moyross and keep a few youngfellas off the streets.
  • starkie
    fair point brian.
    i might have have been a bit personal in my response to you. i thank you for your dignified response.
  • Brian
    @ starkie People buy the sunday world for all different reasons, i know one old woman who buys it just to read Father Brian's article every week, so is that old woman contributing to crime by buying the sunday world aswell. Not evrybody buys it to read what paul williams writes
  • From last week's Limerick Chronicle.
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/n...
  • starkie
    brian
    you answered your own question .
    do you not realize that calling these criminals scum as paul williamsdoes has no effect on them. they are so morally perverted that they actually think they are decent people, i might also add that the people who buy the suinday world are contributing to crime, its a ra.g not a newspaper ,i would be ashamed to be seen buying it. i have come to the conclusion also that a lot of people love crime . they seem dissapointed when limerick goes quiet, so paul williams is not a good journalist, he lives off peoples misery, and so do sunday world buyers
  • Hoof
    Ross Kemp was handed a loaded question from a "quelle surprise" lazy hack from one of O'Reilly's stables. tbh ,I don't think he could have found Limerick on the map, but when did that stop the Indo from making a meal out of nothing.

    As for McInytyre, let him come for a holiday, no problem with him spending some time and money here, if any British audience are shocked though by anything he shows of Limerick, that in itself would be a surprise. I think he'll there's more criminal activity going on in Hackney, Govan, Salford or outside the UK, in parts of Chicago's west-side in a fortnight than he'd find...not just in Limerick...but even Dublin for that matter. He should be given the tour and maybe an opportunity to have a can of special brew in Ma Kelly's. I'd imagine that unless he gets some barstool journos or defence lawyers to beef up the story, comparisons with Sao Paulo and DC will be somewhat disappointing.

    Just so long as he doesn't deprive anyone of a ticket for a European Cup match at Thomond Park.

    Maybe it was "The Indo" in its own inimitable way, with its sensationalist "murder capital of the EU15" statistic. Always a handy one when nobody can give an accurate population figure for a city whose actual urban area straddles three local authority boundaries.
  • BallaBlue
    Anyone remember the little baby McIntyre passing out getting a tattoo on his undercover with the Chelsea Headhunters???? This guy is a self promoting idiot (to put it mildly)....
  • Brian
    Im no fan of paul williams as a person, he makes a living from crime whilst being on the right side of the law. He writes alot of stuff without a reasonable source and gets away with it by saying things such as 'he wont reveal his source'. To be fair though i do enjoy his work that is books and articles in the sunday world. To say williams is glorifying the 'gangsters' i think thats not fair to say, as he puts them down every week calling them such things as scum and scum of the earth etc - wheres the glorifying in that ? Although i do believe these 'gangsters' love reading about themselfs.
  • starkie
    one thing i will say about ross kemp is that he is one hell of a brave guy, he almost got shot one night, a lot of the people he interviewed were totally psychotic, and yes i watched most of his shows they certainly were shocking but i still think paul williams is glorifying the hoods, week after week he writes about them and they love it, he thinks he is shaming them well he isnt because they have no shame, i suppose he cant get a decent story, i dont buy that paper, but its looking into my face in the shop every sunday morning and its aklways gklorifying these people.
  • Brian
    Ross Kemp joked/hinted about coming to Limerick, as far as i know it was only said that he might but i would say him not coming to Limerick has anything to do with his english accent. Didnt he gain many many irish fans as Grant Mitchell in eastenders - they accepted him as Grant in Ireland - english accent an all
  • So basically Channel 5 and Donal McIntyre are simply copying the formula of Sky One's hugely successful Ross Kemp on Gangs series. Entertaining stuff, I think, but ultimately glorifies the gangsters.

    Speaking of which I heard a rumour that Ross Kemp's show were thinking of featuring Limerick, but decided against it as they were warned some of the gang figures wouldn't take kindly to his English accent, does anyone know if this is true?

    Regarding the Irivine Welsh reference to Limerick, he's been living in Dublin for the past number of years so probably picked up the stab city links along the way. I agree with you John that not reacting to bad publicity is the best way to make people move on from consistently bashing Limerick, it ends up just fuelling the flames.
  • upub
    Get over it, Limeriick is a horrible place to live
  • starkie
    the sundy world writes every week about the dublin hoods there has also been numerous documentarys about the dublin hoods, so its not just limerick, i think limerick people are too touchy about the image of llimerickand thats the problem. i think its got to to do more with limerick peoples pride than really caring about the city and the unfortunate people who have to live in these bad areas. whenever im outside of limerick i proudly, but not arrogantly, advertise my city. and yes i admit to people that it can be very dodgy in certain parts but its like that in most cities, in fact every city has these problems. so i havent this inferiority about limerick that most people seem to have
  • LargeLADD
    Don't think he'll get any co-operation from the gangs, i do really fear for macintyre's life on this one.
  • I don't think that we can do anything about the name that Limerick has anymore, I think that we should just accept it no matter if it's right or wrong. I came to this conclusion the other night while I was reading Irvine Welsh's recent book "Bedroom Secrets of the master chefs". There is a mention of a nurse that is from Limerick City and the books character remarks that they should hide all the scalpels or there will be a blood bath in the the operating theater.
    Now I actually am a huge fan of Irvine Welsh and have always thought that he speaks the truth about the underbelly of the cities including his own in a very raw and truthful way and after years of hearing the term stab city from people to describe Limerick, I have concluded that its not worth trying to defend anymore. Maybe eventually, if a reaction is not made to the negative and slanderous descriptions of Limerick, then people will move away from the terms and bad publicity that they are heaping upon us as Limerick natives today.
  • starkie
    sorry squid
    im referring to the media. not you.
  • McIntyre is seeking members of opposing sides in the feud to take part in the programme.

    And glamourising the cunts and giving their actions a sense of perverse worth while he's at it. Public interest fail.
  • mehere
    It's a sick world we live in...But on a funny note wouldn't it be a funny thing if the camera men got mugged and all the film taken off of them...hahaha...Action, Take 2...
  • me
    It's just a pity for McIntyre that the whole thing has died down for so long, Limerick in the same league as those cities? Don't make me laugh. The likes of this guy and a few others use violence as a sick kind of porn but they make the money out of it.
  • starkie
    whats new.
    boring old stuff.
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