Regeneration will cost €3.6bn, but horse facility falls at first fence.

in regards to the horse project.the project was started 11 years ago,meetings were held to get this of the ground,ever before any of the shit happened.there are genuine horse lovers in this city,i dont see why if the travellers can keep their horses why cant the project go ahead.it keeps the kids of the streets and more to the point out of trouble....the idea of the project was to run a fee paying learning centre,,the people of the area would have to do there part in helping out,,and for that they could house their horses there.wouldnt that be better than having them wondering the streets,,like much of our kids out here have to do????or is it like it always has been,,were from moyross so we are all given the same name!!!
its about time the people of moyross stood up and had their voices heard for the GOOD of moyross.......

It's cheaper to hire a meeting room when required than pay for it full time as part of your offices.

If anyone was in the vicinity of the Railway Station last evening (about 7:30 pm) they'd have seen a fine example of what these horse-lovers are about.

Four sulkies had come up Parnell St. just in time to meet busy traffic attempting to leave the station car park. Unperturbed, an impromptu "pow-wow" was held by the four horsemen at the car park exit point/bus station entrance gate, cars could barely squeeze by, buses trying to get in were ignored, backing traffic up all over (including a squad car that mysteriously decided to head down Mallow St.). Commuters were squirming past as two of the sulkie drivers were kids who had little control, if any, over their "pets". Eventually they decided to make some way. Then as the backed up traffic along Hyde Road was now delaying them, the fab four decided to institute their own bypass racing the traps onto the green area where pedestrians were scattered and, more worrying, I witnessed a man playing ball with his toddler on the green having to swiftly pick up his kid and run for cover as these fuckers were stopping for absolutely no-one.

As the sulkies came to the jam-packed junction of Hyde Road and Careys Road another discussion was held, this time on and off the roadway. Totally ignoring cars and pedestrians - they were pulling up without warning or turning at a whim - eventually deciding to head towards Edward Street. More than likely off to some estate where they could hone up their turning at speed skills while flinging local kids onto parked cars and over walls.

And still they're pandered by the authorities as if they operate a Sanctuary for stray cats.

trust me, the cost of hiring hotel rooms over the next five to ten years will all add up.

WOW! they announce a bizillion euro plan and you are worried about the cost of hiring a room to hold a meeting in...

Next thing now we will have sulky racing contests every Sunday on O Connell Street which will of course be in association with Spin Southwest and the prizegiving in Thr Trinity Rooms !!

Another form of transportation I hear, why not give them penalty points then??

Generally i think that the guys in the sulkies should have the horses taken off them as they are rarely look after the animals well. As far i know horses are regarded as a form of transportation by the law. I don't think that includes the racing on the roads/housing estates etc... As regards Knockalasheen if it is anyway near the vet laboratory it wouldn't be a good idea.

The people involved in the horse culture in the northside (not all ) were galloping up and down the main road in moyross today as children were leaving the local school no sulkies just yung fellas on horse back no consideration for kids, followed closly by the other bane of corpo estates a mini motor cycle ( no helmet or tax and insurance I'm sure) the roads are not safe or the fields or footpaths either.

This is so funny, I was under the impression that the whole idea of regeneration was to rid Limerick of it the Chav Scumbag image it is has been labelled for the last 20 years. What clown decided it would be a good idea to encourage the trash that ride these horses back onto the Street? I moved to the UK from Limerick 15 years ago and when I read stories like this it makes me glad I did. I do feel sorry for the Local tax payer who can only stand by helpless and watch at their money being wasted on encouraging the activities of the scumbags who gave the City the name it has today....

It depends. Were the horse owners expected to pay for using the facility or was it going to be free? And were any conditions to be imposed, such as keeping their horses off public land?

As Hoof points out, it's a hobby for some people, and for others a significant, tax-free money-maker. I understand that some of these horses can change hands for very large amounts of cash.

I'm also sick of people racing on the open road, and I'm tired of the abuse I receive from them occasionally. Our children can't even play football on the road, so I don't know why people think they're entitled to use it as a free racecourse. Do you?

My hobby is carpentry, but I don't know if the government is going to build me a workshop.

Who knows? Maybe they will.

If they can't afford to have land for horses then they shouldnt have a horse. Simple as that imo. What should the tax payer pay for some scummer to have a horse and sulky and use both on the roads with no insurance...and no tax. The animals should be confiscated and the cops should not allow these horsey people to trot up O'Connel St in their sulkies which I saw last weekend..

And as for who paid for the hotel...seriously petty. Quite often hotels give those rooms for free or very cheap. In the grand scheme of things who cares who paid for the room. Its a tiny tiny cost in the grand plans. Seriously like...is that all you have to whinge about?

Looks like Generalissimo Willie has abandoned his Sulky vote base.

Or has the reality finally hit him that these people can well afford to buy land and stables for their pets. That they should consider spending their own money rather than the States' for a change as they indulge themselves in tax-free equine business.

I don't expect WillieO to hand over a few thousand tax euros for my dogs feeding, sheltering or veterinary bills. And am hardly alone in knowing that certainty, yet these people - who rarely if ever bother to look for a job (always having the handy excuse tucked away in the arse pocket), expect the taxpayer to fund their hobby, part of which involves terrorising people and road users by racing sulkies through estates and open spaces with wild abandon.