Investigation into Dooradoyle shooting

ABOVE PARAGRAPH..when i read back it sounded differnet. what i was pointing out in the text.. was..
'Ok lets have the tough way of thinking and lock up all the scumbags. as shooting is something i hate to hear about. but try putting all the thousands who use drugs to jail,
.. yes a march should be organised, for anyone who uses a weapons to shoot somone..in cities and towns and the scumbags should be locked up and the key thrown away. when it comes to harder drugs that have destroyed lives.. i had to rewrite the ABOVE. as it sounded different when i read back. what I was pointing out was to take away the scumbags power we have to treat the people who take harder drugs, some come from very harsh backround, some do it for money. it's endless and hurtfull. but in regards to cannabis it is noting compared to cocaine,herion medication drugs ect..and if the ministers decided to tackle this buy introducing,, LOOK this UP Hope.Net. cannabis outlets that would have a safe quiet athmosphere. governments should control this through our doctors and advice to drug users, and clean up this mess, make profit rather than the gangsters, do it correct! through even the medical board, advice centres from the tax-money? rather than go on playing COWboys&Indians, before more lives are ruined through DIRTY drugs, and gang control. oh and sorry my wording isn't perfect here.. this isn't because that i smoke cannabis. It's from a disorder caused by violence that nearly killed me. i smoke because it helps me cope. like many i know who also enjoy cannabis to relax, compared to the horrid after effects of eating crap fast food on your body,also the hang-over feeling from alcohol that has a huge number of deaths compared to a bit of good grade cannabis, if only...

also the people i'm talking about that make up the thousands, was from our last cannabis march in May Dublin city.. through my years mostly people i mett in all honesty that don't like pubs, and prefer a joint or cannabis tea at home, are people in all honesty people in good prfessions, that like to chill out.. ok it's true we have youths who buy it as i see them smoking on college grounds, but at least they are studying.. then on the bus last week, it was bad, as this lad who looked like he could be a herion user lit a a spliff ..it was alwafull as it was that toxic smell of hashish, mixed with chemicals. as our ministers don't want to control this by legalsing god knows what the youths today are doin to their health.. Ok lets have the tough way of thinking, lock up scumbags that shoot is something i hate to hear. but try putting all the thousands, and i mean thousands of people in jail.. the cost of that ?? on tax ? come on ..look up on line for example in Brussels.. cannabis laws.. i was there, it feels much safer, but every where has it's crime, all cities. it would reduce crime here in fact, not completly, but it would bring justice, and also from taxing cannabis would bring wealth.. why ? http://www.indymedia.ie/articl...
http://www.irishtimes.com/news...
http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/articles...
it has it's customers ? just like pubs have theirs.. WE dont all dabble with hard drugs.. cannabis isn't and shouldn't be a crime. i'm 25 i have a good job i know many of my friends from work who smoke a joint to relax after a long day at the office. but we all feel the same about the stuff we buy, as what most cannabis users somke is not natural,it's called soapbar, 100 per ounce, last 4weeks if u just have at the weekends only.. due to it not been legal.. also i have mett close friends in good professions, who smoke to relax,study,go hinking,night in with friends dinner, wine & joint, and movies to giggle , conversation..

we are in a recession.. According to Gardai Siochana figures this failed war on cannabis has cost the state an estimated 10 billion euros over the last 30 years. ...
alone in 2008 there had been a total of 25million.. can we not just accept people smoke it, but at least legalise it like Amsterdam,Spain u can grown your own 1female plant at home, Italy, San Fran..there are 500 outlets you can buy cannabis..as there is in reality a huge market for it ? or should we keep telling people theey are Bad Bad BAd.. and the gangsters can sell toxic crap..where the government and ministers..if they they legalise it, well at least 40million yearly on tax ? let licence owners decide their own closing time ? we could change our strict laws ? accept.. make money and give we humans propper smokes.? build a big outdoor heated pool along the Quays, Liffey, something 24hour +luas.. later..keep it busy and people will stay and cannabis cafes will bring wealth.. have an age limit of over 21s ? it would FOR SURE Help this recession??? am i right, or tell me... bad idea ? look people will still choose to do what they wanna do ? why not the government accept and make it safer ??? accept..? the mature users ? think about ? am i a bad person because i have so far mett thousands of people of the years who enjoy a joint > ?? arrrghhhhhhh

lest we lose hope and cease commentry on this thread i would like to refer you all to the followng articles; irish times sat 15th nov front pg of week-end review written by conor lally
sun independent 16th nov pg 26 jim cusack
sun independent 16th nov pg 27 cathal mccarthy
sun independent 16th nov brendan oconnor
last and least minister willie odeas contribution on pg 27 of sunday independent 16th nov which contains several engish language words but zero meaning, his statics stated are very contradictory to the article written by jim cusack in yesterdays irish times, i can't confirm as i am largely dependent on the quality and accuracy of the media for my information.
i would hope that in the coming weeks and months we, on this site will continue to "brainstorm" in shanes memory, and like in 1998, the summary murder and execution of veronica guerin brought about a number of changes, albeit slowly, it was the constant pressure from her friends, family and the people insistent on change made this happen.
we need to examine the mind set of the "drug dealing" fraternity, many good points are made in above articles, but what we need to understand are their weaknesses not their strengths, because we know their strengths lie in numbers, fear, bullying and greed, but that is also where a lot of their weaknesses also lie.....they have obviously accumulated vast sums of money, drive flash amour plated vehicles, but still live in houses of relativly low value, why? is that a comfort zone? they are familiar with their surroundings, neighbours etc, they have the instinct and knowledge of who to recruit and who to intimidate this is both clever and stupid, but informative, they are'nt comfortable dealing with unknown entities, they are uneducated, unworldly (as said in articles) they are clever and devious and educated in what they do.....the underworld, they require the back up of the like minded people they surround themselves with, therefore they lack the courage and confidence to stand alone, therefore they are not independent integrated humans, and rather than slag them off as the dehumanised scumbags they are, we need to rise above that and find the confidence and courage in what we have in strength that will, with our dogged persistence ,overcome what they seem intent to bring to bear on our society

The front pages of every newspaper at the moment are revealing who is responsible for this murder. Why not apply the same charge as in the recent toddler death in London:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/t...
death&method=full&objectid=20888326&siteid=115875-name_page.html

The killers were charged as follows:

The mother's 32-year-old boyfriend and the family's lodger Jason Owen, 36, of Bromley, Kent, were yesterday convicted at the Old Bailey of CAUSING OR ALLOWING THE BOY'S DEATH in August last year."
Surely this applies in this instance?

@hoof, this is the same guy who got 9 months last August for using a fraudulent pasport, that was 3 months ago yet he fail to turn up to court 23/10. My question is if he got 9 months last august why was he not already in prision and did he do any time from that conviction last august.

I'm in England and heard about this via a relative who lives in Limerick.
I've been to Ireland a few times to visit this year and I got to say that your country is in a state.
The Garda are a joke - the UK police are pretty crap but yours don't seem to give a shit.
On one visit I stumbled across the Limerick court house and asked two scruffy press photographers for directions. There was a large Garda presence and piles of scumbags everywhere and I asked the press men what was going on - is Al Capone in court today or something. They replied that it was just another day in Limerick!
Ireland - your politicians need to get their act together. Zero tolerance - sort it out. You are a good people (unlike our other neighbours the French) but you're heading the wrong way.
Break this before it breaks you.

@angry. Very astute observation. Although I'd imagine his publicly paid for legal-eagle might well have advised a ten-month stretch might be worth doing to get out of the public gaze, or imo, and knowing the cowardly bastard that he is, a chance to avoid an opportunistic attack by the people his gang failed to kill last week. Not one of this breed has so much as a bullet graze afaik.

So it's little wonder the McCarthy-Dundons, their allies up in Clonlong and the little-shit footsoldiers think they rule the roost when a person who is described by the Garda top-brass as one of Irelands most dangerous and habitual criminals can walk the streets laughing his cock off at the law after being convicted on 34 charges. I'm not sure if the same guy was the one using a fraudulently obtained passport but even that serious crime was another wrist-slap job.

I would be more worried that Dundon handed himself in, looks more like an alibi for something that is going to happen, remember the Ryan bros handed themselves in to a Garda station up the country an hour or so after Kieran Keane killed, watch this space!

do any of you feel like i do this morning......when i heard the news that g.dundon turned himself in to the gardai on foot of a commital order handed down last july......i'm confused, 34 driving offences, sentenced and signed on the dotted line july 08, so 3 and a half months he was strolling about, i always defend the gardai, always claim they don't have the legislation to back them up, i'm obviously getting old but even more naive, does the commissioner have an answer? and he turned himself in? so that forgive me for presuming...but is he looking for the protection of the gardai? irony, hypocrisy won't cover it, does anyone else want an answer? mr. odea, the larger limerick community have stood behind you for a very long time, you are the minister of defence, what does your title actually mean? you are humiliating your supporters, you are a downright disgrace, if you ever recieve another vote to place you in a position of representing the people it will be a national shame, the people who put you where you are want an answer,

squid sincere apoligies .thanx for putting us straight ..............as for pat what you on about ...........i never once said sin fein were involved i said where are they when the people of limerick need them ...........they were only tripping them selves when the people of dublin needed them .

@ sparky, isn't it even remotly interesting how peoples perceptions vary? i viewed bobadams comments as originating in the sheer fraustration of probably working his ass off to keep his life and those of his loved ones together, he told us all that he has lived in moyross for 22 yrs, with 3 vyrs to pay on a house which is probably worth nothing.....what phenomonal view do you have from the moral high ground to judge what anyone you dont know has been doing for 22 years...and tell them to keep doing it? its views and perceptions such as yours that maintains the "closed mind" view from which our society will deteriorate, bobadam suggested the MARCH why would you judge him? why do you assume that people living in moyross all turn a blind eye? your assumptions are disrespectful and unproductive. if you did apply for a house and yes, you are right your neighbours would not know who you associate with, but that is precisly what is being spoken about here, ones respect for themselves, their neighbours and their community, therefore the accountability and responsibility of who you brought with you would be down to you, why would you sacrifice the opportunity for gaining some self awareness for the opportunity to just further voice the existing situation, don't you want change? what you are suggesting to bobadam is to bow down and keep taking it, "turn a blind eye" if bobadam has the courage not to do that he should be applauded not criticised or judged, sincerly wish there were more of him, innocent people are being killed, they cant kill all of us that is precisly why we need to support each other...im not naive enough to believe the drug problem will go away, but i firmly believe that the decline we are in can go either way and its basically our choice, we sit and wait or we get up and do something.

@bobadam, just asking a general question, are u mad?. remember the 1916 rising is over . in case u avent noticed people dont take stands for reasons like this. in ur earlier comment u said think of ur children/grandchildern if u dont take this stand. it should be think of them if u do take this stand u could be putting their lives into danger aswell as ur own. i do realise that our govt. and our guard force dont do anything but thats there fault. u also asked people to make a vital phone call . do u really want more innocent people 2 be killed for phoning a gaurd force that do nothing about the problem anyway.these ideas u ave just be kept to ur self . And really u blame people for turning a blind eye ,what would u do in dat siuation , as u said u live in moyross so therefore u should be well used to turning i blind eye cos u left that comment not log ago so obivously ur still living dere and u avent made the vital call. u seem to me to be to-faced . i doubt u ave thought about wat comment ur goin leave before u wrote them. another thing i call 2 ur attention ur comment about the MWHB ,wat i dont think u realise is that for example i put in for a house they vet me and give me the house but still u or anyone wouldnt know who i am hanging around wit or who i could be going out with that would be living with me, so there fore the MWHB are not blame 100% in the wrong as it would be people hiding ther true intentions for getting that house. i would offer u one piece of advice for the future do wat u obviously ave been doing for 22 years keep ur eyes closed tight and ur mouth even tighter.

Enough of the PC boll*x and lets call it as it is......we all have a vested interest in our communities. For those of us who get off our ars*s and go to work every day and obey the laws of the land, there are certain basic rights that we are entitled to i.e. we have a right to the reasonable enjoyment of our community / neighbourhood without fear of a rise in crime and anti-social behaviour.

We also have a right (subject to prevailing economic conditions) to see investment in our homes appreciate without hindrance. The potential movement of undesirable elements, scum to be more precise, into our communities without consultation, transparency and a clear trail of accountability by those providing such housing, is clearly unacceptable.

One only has to look at the HSE's housing strategy for an example of how the ordinary person is the one that suffers the most i.e. the HSE provides rented accommodation to known scum in all areas of the city.

I was born and have lived most of my life in Limerick, I have friends and acquaintances from the more disadvantaged areas of Limerick, so my comments are not some misguided snobbery. However, I do have legitimate concerns that my community has the potential to be irrevocably damaged both socially and economically by the actions of parasites who offer nothing but misery and in return are given a free ride by the state. The criminal justice and social welfare syetms need to be updated to reflect the reality of modern day Limerick / Ireland.

On the Legal side, the right to silenece needs to be addressed, surveillance evidence needs to be made admissible in court, mandatory sentencing is required, more judges need to be in place, prison places need to be increased - the list is long and has been ignored up until now.

On the social side, a "hand up not hand out approach is needed". There should be a stage when you forfEit your right to social welfare. true you can be evicted from a council house but once a person declares themselves homeless, the HSE MUST accommodate them and that can be anywhere!!! Also, as an example of the system gone mad, a single mother with three kids can receive a house worth €300K, 5 Kids - €500k its absolute madness - where is the incentive to work, climb up the ladder and contribute to society?

Our elected representatives are quite simply a joke, paying lip service to the ordinary man's concerns yet by the same token not lifitng a finger to agitate for change. Its time the ordinary man stood up against what is happening to our city / country.

Anybody know who the intended target actually was? The Independent today says "Previously, his brother fled Southill after he became caught-up in the feud between the McCarthy-Dundon and Casey gangs."
As I understand the Dundons and Caseys are allies, not enemies

I think that a march should be organised in all the big cities and towns and the scumbags should be locked up and the key thrown away. Our Justice system is a joke. RIP SHANE .

Listen lads, there is nothing to be gained by the introduction of a shoot to kill policy which a number of you seem to be suggesting,,,I agree with Bollox et al that much of this reaction seems to be driven by the aduacity of the culprits encroaching into the middle class comfort zone out in 'dooradoyle' This approach is very sinister and ought to be checked...these are violent times as is evedienced by how many of us rely on it for our entetainment on a regular basis while having a cup of tae....!

I believe in human rights and civil rights. They are universal. However, I also believe in the forfeiture of rights. These criminals have forfeited theirs. Why won't the legal system accept this? I have zero sympathy for them. No right-thinking person would. The gardaí have now been told by Ahern that they will be given what they want in terms of resources and legislation. The ball is now in their court. If the case against Jeffrey Hannan's or Shane Geoghagan's killers is not dealt with rationally by our independent judiciary, it could be time to look at the whole judicial system. My own feelings are that some judges live in ivory towers and fail to understand that their 'mercy' is misplaced and fails the society that appointed them as judges. If a jury returns a guilty verdict, a judge must deliver. The one uplifting thing in all of this is how resolute all posters here seem to be that something must be done and that we have had enough.

I am a born and bread city man who moved out to the sticks a few years back. The last few years I have pined for the city life and a move back in. What happended to Shane sickened me to the bone and I will never move back to the city. I am afraid that my description will match some vile scum bags details and I will be on the receiving end of a bullet in the head. Everyone out there is now a target for these McCarthy/ Dundons who have laid siege to the city. I do not blame the Guards as they are fighting with one arm tied behind their backs. I blame the polictions who are afraid to make decisions at the highest level. Remember the Dundons only arrived on our shores 8 years ago because the brits kicked them out. Why can't we hand them back their mess. 20 Years ago we gave out about the Kellys of Southill but they are mice compared to these people. Its time to imprison these people and give them no rights. If it goes to the Courts of Human rights then so be it. Keep delaying the process and let them roth while it is happening. It will actually save money as Garda man hours will be saved.

@joebuck. I Remember Willie Keane's remarks about those "fine upstanding folk" alright, he should have been fired on the spot for making it.

Those people have terrorised entire communities and single-handedly ruined O'Malley Park. They have driven businesses and factories out of Galvone and Crossagalla Industrial Estates. Whenever they venture into town, pubs and shops close in scenes more reminiscent of a Wild West film.

They are the eyes and ears of the Dundons. They have committed every crime on the Statute Book yet the HSE and Council have bent over backwards to place them all over the city and suburbs in what can only be described as human muck-spreading.

Fine, upstanding people indeed ! How the Gardaí can claim to be getting on top of the McCarthy-Dundon's while praising their allies in such glowing terms shows just how out of touch they must really be.

@hoof: First of all, I hadn't known that progress was being made in the investigation into Jeffrey Hannon's killing, thanks for informing me of that. And yes, I am aware of the clan involved and their connection to the Dundon family.
It's also right to say that a lot of outrage was expressed on this website at the killing but what about in our national newspapers and on RTE? Here we say a huge difference in the level of coverage given to both killings. There is also quite a difference in the reaction of the gardai. Now we have the garda commissioner first meeting with the government and then with garda chiefs in Limerick. I seem to recall Limerick's former garda chief, Willie Keane (since promoted!) referring to the clan from which Jeffreys killers come as a fine, upstanding family.
My point is the huge difference in scale of the reaction of the national media when a person from a middle class area is killed rather than a person from a corporation estate. Jeffrey probably did know his killers as they live very close to O'Malley Park. I imagine that many other innocent residents of that estate have had the misfortune to come across them also where as people from better off neighbourhoods are lucky enough to be able to avoid these kind of people in their day to day lives (although the HSE may help change this situation).
To conclude, yes I am outraged by both killings, indeed by all killings but also by the hypocrisy and cowardice shown by the national media.

The intended target was not killed the intended target was a drug dealer placed by the HSE in a neighbourhood where most people are up to their eyeballs in mortgage debt. PC Brigade at work again placing scumbags around the city....how the fook do the Gardai and the people who place these vermin not know they are criminals or connected to the gangs

@joebuck. About two weeks ago six people were questioned about Jeffery Hannon's death. The case is said to be progressing against at least two of them. Until they're charged there's no point going any further but I'd imagine you know that "clan" are connected with the Dundons.

At the time of Jeffery's death there was plenty of outrage. Click the Archive here and you will see it expressed. His murder was condemned and also highlighted in the National and Local media for days.

There may well be one significant difference in what happened in both incidents.

Chances are Jeffery Hannon knew his killers and they would have known him. He happened to come across them and who knows, "said the wrong thing" to his attackers. To these people that can be refusing to give them a cigarette or make a trivial remark. He could have been in their company when they turned on him.

Shane Geoghegan did not know he was facing psychopaths armed with intent on murdering someone who looked like him when he made for home on a bleak night. He wouldn't have had a notion what was happening until the bullets were spraying him. His killers didn't know or even care who was in front of them, it was enough that he bore a similarity to the intended target.

Save your outrage for the killers of both men. It's not a contest to see who gets the most coverage. Neither family want such attention, and long after the uproar subsides, they're the ones who have to live with the awful consequences of these mindless crimes.

My thoughts condolences and prayers are with Shane fiance, parents, siblings and extended family and friends.

Well said bollox, what about Jeffery Hannon? Why was the same outrage not shown when he was murdered? How many Gardai are investigating his death?

I see a lot of comments here about giving the Gardai more powers.

Problem is that we have all seen how the Gardai can abuse their powers.

Just look at the problems created by the institutionalised Garda abuse of powers in Donegal which lead to the setting up of the Morris Tribunal at the cost of millions of euro.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/b...

Unfortunately these abuses by some Gardai will make it difficult for the force as a whole to be trusted with further powers.

From reading the comments of our politicans on this horrible murder, I have have sadly reached the conclusion that nothing will change and the scumbags who murdered Shane will continue to walk the streets.

I live in England and an issue like this happened where the people in the community stood up and marched upon the government offices and piled the pressure on and got results finally.

I agree with you these scumbags will laugh at us all but we have to try and do something.

Do you think the march is the best way forward, what you think.

There are plenty of people on here who knew Shane and are in deep shock. I am not inciting you or anyone else. I am expressing an opinion and the point I made is valid no matter what spin you put on it. These murdering bastards don't care who gets hurt and you can be sure they are going to go after the target again. It shouldn't take Shanes murder to get the Gov to move on crime, the point I was making is that this is happening on an on going basis only this time it happened in a middle class area. I'm sorry if I offended you but I am like you, upset and want these bastards dealt with. The Dundons are sick bastards and would laugh their arses off at a march or anything else, they are animals and we need to apply pressure to our TD's to move on them now. If you think a march will apply the pressure on them then fine, go for it.

To all the people on the blogger, we all have comments but the number one goal is as follows:

Keep the momentum going on organising this march, get flyers out, communicate with as much people as possible. Shops to put up posters informing people to make a stand.

Lets keep the momentum going and end the control of these scumbags once and for all.

@ Bollox, a lot people commenting on this thread have mentioned a lot of personal interactions with Shane. To say its unfair of these people to march just because they didn't show the same outrage at another poor soul's murder is rediculous. Don't dictate to people how they should react to this. How dare you say those of us who intend on marching are doing it to make ourselves better. I've known Shane and his family all his life and some pal you must be inciting those who care about him while he's yet to be buried.

I just logged onto this shyte, who do ye think ye are. Blame everyone from the Regeneration Agency to Gardai and not 1 word about the greed that created the ground for these pricks to multiply. The Regeneration Agency is only around for just over a year and is now the blame for all the wrongs. I know Shane and his family very well as I knew Jeffery Hannon and his family and the only difference is Jeffery lived in O'Malley Park. It is almost a year since Jeffery Hannon was murdered and I didn't see this level of contempt for his murderers. Wise up the lot of you, a life is a life and the fact where a young man is from should not be used as a level of the disgust shown. All these scumbags should be rounded up now and use the the law which is in place to do so. Don't use Shanes death to make yourself feel better by marching around the streets. Go to your TD and ask him or her what the fuck they are doing about this.

My heart goes out to the Geoghegans, God only knows what they are feeling right now.

bobadam, i will pass on info for silent march starting at pery sq on nov 15th 2pm, if anyone out there has access to printing, maybe some leaflets letting others know would be helpful? a lot of people feel demoralised that any change can occur, its so tough these days keeping body and soul together, so the worst outcome would be that our personal commitments will overrule our wills and intentions to do our best to stem the growth of criminality, also the very real fear of reprisal, a lot of people who raised their heads above the parapet in objection to these people were threatened and assaulted so it is even more important to take action in big numbers.
there is not a small village or town or housing estate in ireland that is not affected by the flow of drugs into their community, any action taken by the good people of limerick and its environs has to be a positive message to the entire country. i sincerly hope the march will have a massive turnout, very important to get full press coverage, its about more than our anger and disgust, its about CHANGE.

Hi squid would it be possible for u guys to set up a condolence page for shane for people who like myself from limerick but are living over sea's who would like to send their condolence's and maybe somthing like an online petition for people to sign that might make it's way to the justice minister (it's just a thought)

The problem with our politicans are that they are not willing to move to nuke this problem. Brian Fitzgearlds murder was to be a watershed moment, this recent murder has its roots in the same gene pool. What f**king planet is are our representatives on! Soundbites from officals are wearing very thin. Irish people want this culture destroyed to its core now. How dare scumbags think that they can shoot dead who ever the hell they like! Since when have they become the rulers of our country?
The problem with the gangs is that they have far out evolved the leglislator, the gardai, the government and society. They think there indestructable so then they behave like they are animals.The plague made more sense this culture of scum are disease ridden rats.

I was told that there had already been a murder attempt on some guy living in kilteragh est, is that true? did the gardai know that some guy there was a target? was he moved there with rent allowance? the population have never before had to deal with a situation so out of control, the fact that "known" drug dealers....or at least suspected drug dealers with criminal links are being moved around the country by the people we look to protect our lives and that of our children is beyond unacceptable and terrifying.
our politicians are becoming so far removed from the reality of the lives of the people of this country, where are the politicians wages coming from? all of us, we the non criminals of ireland have to band together and demand these people are removed for our safety, we are paying for it and some of us with our lives, lets insure that shane is never forgotten.
if this entire country refused to pay our taxes until some degree of internment for these criminals is introduced, then the law makers would sit up fast enough....its drastic but the extreme liberal sentences handed out are also drastic, mandatory should mean what it says, how could a judge hand out a sentence of six years, probably out in 3/4 years to someone caught with six million worth of drugs?. we need draconian laws to deal with draconian criminals. we cannot take any more of this

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO SHANES FAMILY AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU ALL FOR THIS SENSELESS ACT, MAY YOU ALL EVENTUALLY FIND PEACE IN YOUR HEARTS. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL GET TOGETHER @ 2 PM SAT 15TH NOVEMBER IN PERY SQUARE AND HAVE A SILENT MARCH THROUGH THE STREETS OF LIMERICK IN MEMORY OF SHANE. A BLACK SCARF OR ARMBAND FOR THE MEMORY OF SHANE BE WORN. AND IF YOU ARE A RECREATIONAL USER OF DRUGS THINK AGAIN BEFORE YOU SNORT WHO'S INNOCENT LIFE AM I PAYING FOR TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY? ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN THE SILENT MARCH MEET UP ON SAT AND PASS ON THIS MESSAGETO OTHERS.THE BIGGER THE CROWD THE MORE OUR GOVERNMENT MIGHT WAKE UP TO THE SITUATION AT HAND.

my very deepest sympathies to the family and friends of shane geoghan.
i absolutly believe that limerick as a city should show its mourning and disgust at this appalling deed, perpetrated from the most dire greed and disregard for life, i think the family should be afforded the respect and dignity to grieve at the funeral in as much peace as they can find, but as a show of limericks abhorrance, i do feel that every single business and office and cafe and hotel should close for at least a 3 hour period, and post a black ribbon at their entrance.
someone should then begin the organising of a march on city hall in the coming weeks, before christmas, @ keith, yes this should be a watershed, just as veronica guerins murder was, but her death initiated such change because the people called for that.
CAB should take every single item from these people, ie. cars jeeps, tv's houses. whatever, if they cant show proof of payment by way of earnings.
legislation will have to be drafted very urgently, to protect the innocent population, but we the population will have to force their hand.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SUPPORTS THESE DRUG DEALERS BY WAY OF A JOINT OR A GRAM OF COCAINE HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS....NO CUSTOMERS NO BUSINESS.

something needs to be done about these families. they are in the minority. why are we letting them ruin our city, it's reputation and worst of all we are letting them claim the lives of those our city can be proud of, decent people like shane. limerick needs to act, before its too late. there are people in limerick who could do something about these f**king scumbags. no one would miss them. no one would care.

I think Noonan is being constructive saying that we need to introduce special laws similar to what we had to tackle the provos, like outlawing membership of a gang. The law needs to recognise the existence of organised gangs, like the mafia in America.

We can’t treat members of gangs like individual criminals anymore.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the gun laws?

Surely if we had draconian gun laws it would help.

What exactly happens somebody today if they are caught a gun without a licence? Do they do time? How much time?

Peeps,

I knew Shane through rugby and only played against him a couple of weeks ago, Gentle giany for sure and a Captains role was well suited both on and off the pitch. He was a gent in victory and defeat.
I can say from all of us @ Young Munsters our thoughts and prayers are with Shane and his family as this time and for will be for a long time.

There is a lot of talk going on here but let this one be the last, you should fax, email or call your local TD tomorrow and voice your concerns, an email thread to Willie the rat and his partners in Government should also be passed around to show how much we are united in disgust and terror and this innocent man was butchered in our city.
Please don't talk about it, as many have mentioned here its solidarity with his family @ St Josephs church is where we should mark his passing and our support for his family at this very difficult time.

If i see Willie on the street in the coming days which i normally do i'm gonna give him a roasting which he deserves...

God bless Shane and may he rest in peace.

I'm not even gonna get into comments about the SCUM who did this... we are all responsible in some way for sitting on our arses and doing or saying nothing about all the shit going on in our city over the last few years.
We should all hang our heads in shame but we need to act now so lets get something started or organised.
Who do we need to contact about a march. Can we plague our local TD's to do something..
Has anyone on here got any legal info on what we can do ??

Limerick has lost all credibility this is the FINAL straw no more excuses this town is finished R.I.P Shane.........

Terrible thing to happen. Absolutely desestating.

My worry is that we will talk tough about what we should do and then nothing will happen (as usual).

Do people have practical ideas about how to stop these guys? The politicians have no clue what action to take.

I say more power for the guards, remove all the liberal judges from every bench in the country and let the guilty answer for the evils they commit.

Anyone connected to the Dundon/Keanes/Colopy/mcCarthy's have their civil rights immediately revoked. Gather them up and then decide the most appropriate way to deal with them.

Sadly the only way to get rid of these scum bags is punish the people that buy and/ or are caught in possession of drugs. If the accountant/ lawyer/ doctor/ teacher etc. that is caught in possession of drugs was sentenced to 10 years in jail, then most normal people wouldnt buy drugs, and these scumbags would have no market to supply.

Anyone that has bought a drug around Limerick has this guys blood on their hands. If people hadnt bought drugs there would be no turf war/ feuding, and no mistaken identities.

Get the people that buy the drugs off the streets and the suppliers, guns, & feuding will disappear also. Its the only way forward!!!!!!!!!!

@angry. Good post, well said.

Maybe another tea and coffee reception in the regeneration agency's office with that criminal drug vermin will shed some light...

This could have been any of one of us, proves the point about the impending re-generation / HSE housing initiatives. Scum living in decent areas will reap misery on those in close proximity. I'm not sure if the intended guy was in a council bought / HSE rented house, but the worry is that you put these guys in a nice area and that’s what you get.

I think (hope) this might be a watershed killing though, like veronica Guerin i.e. its one thing having drug dealers killing each other (and I can only assume the guards don’t expend too much energy pursuing them) but when normal innocent people are being murdered outside their houses, it’s the states responsibility to protect them (us). We really need to address the criminal justice system, e.g. something like being a convicted member of a paramilitary group. If you are found guilty of being a member of any prescribed gang like limerick feuders etc - that should be 3 years in jail, have a knife - 5 years, gun - 10 years, murder - 25 / 30 years and so on. Bang them up for a very very long time....only way to do it I think.

I should have expressed myself more clearly. Hoof did it for me :)

Agreed Squid, fair point. I was thinking of the streets being filled with people showing their solidarity with the family at this time, and, by their presence, revulsion at the act and its perpetrators.

Certainly not by marching with posters, banners etc. during the service or indeed marching at all, but more along the lines of how the people of Brussels streamed onto the streets of the Belgian capital some years ago during the funerals of two girls murdered by a paedophile who had benefited from that country's Judiciary failing to put him away for earlier crimes. People stood in silence. It was both respectful and powerful.

Deepest sympathies to Shane's family. I cannot even imagine the pain they are going though.

I fully agree with limerick1214 and I would join any protest or march against these lowest form of life scum. I think we have cowered away from this problem for too long.

He was not "at the wrong place at the wrong time" he was walking home the sumbags where inthe wrong place. I grew up in one of these shitholes worked hard and got out of there I am now living in Dooradoyle with a massive mortage and now the scumbags are living out here but they don't have big mortages no the H.S.E. are paying for their houses. Regeneration my arse they will move the scum all over the suburbs, knock down weston southill, moyross and the like and then tell us they have no money to rebuild them so they have now spread the problem all over the city. These people are not bothered by the case of mistaken identity they are more bothered that they didn't get their target, they are evil and killing dosen't cost them a thought and our judical system has alot to answer for, they have created these monsters, how many slaps on the wrist do they have to get before locking up?


My deepest sympathies to Shane Geoghegan’s family and friends.

I agree Squid, let the Family of Shane grieve their great loss.
More power needs to be given to the Gardai. All these scum bags should locked away with just the very basic human rights, put the "hard back in to hard time.

squid. i don't want to make a demonstration or a march through town with forks, torches! i meant it as a form of silent protest. just be there and show your sympathy with the family. by no means anything loud!

Definitely a protest on a different day of the funeral.

Lets keep having the suggestions flowing in to ensure we can gain momentum on this subject.

I do not particularly like the idea of using this man's funeral as an opportunity to protest. Attend the funeral to show support for the family if you wish, but a protest if one were to be organised, should take place on a different day to the funeral.

Tom, I'm sure the Church service will overflow on to the street. To take you up further on your suggestion. Perhaps if every office and business in the city centre closed their doors for that hour of the requiem and allowed people to make a dignified silent protest by coming out into the streets during the service.

Ironic that the service is being held in St. Joseph's and in such close proximity to the office where the perpetrator of this deed will seek free legal aid if charged.

Such protests will have no impact whatsoever on the scumbags or judges, but maybe our absentee Dáil representatives might take note.

according to Newswire
Requiem Mass will be held in St. Joseph's Church, O'Connell Avenue, on Wednesday at 11am. Funeral afterwards to Mungret Cemetery

I'd say everyone able to go there should do so to show our unlimited solidarity with the victims family and to give a clear signal that something has to be changed in this city.

My deepest sympathies to this dear mans family.

I left Limerick 12 years ago, shooting was not the reason i left.

It sickens me to read what is going on in my home town and even Dooradoyle where i grew up.

Can i ask all Limerick people to stand up and March to the doors of City Hall and let Mr O'Dea know enough is enough. People together have a bigger voice and the government must now step in and put the said gang that is causing all this S*** finally out of business.
I would be more than happy to fly home and get involved in this March, i don't care if these criminals know who i am. They are cowards and i would be more than willing like most Limerick people to stand up once and for all.

Any comments to get this moving would be welcomed.

Mardan, yes thay are the same geoghan's!

I just heard Willie O'Dea on the RTE news at 1 pm.

He was talking the same old nonsence and had absolutely no new ideas.

What the f*** is our so called "Limerick joint policing board " doing about this........more photo opportunities and press releases I suppose, thats all they are good for.

I'm totally shocked-having just being down for the weekend for the game and this poor guy to be taken out by scumbags.
I'd agree that there needs to be new legislation -someone in the government needs to cop the fuck on.

morrigan Says:

November 10th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I am shocked by this shocked and saddened. I know it is selfish of me but this ‘feud’ had always seemed far removed from my life and i was of the opinion that ’sure they are only killing each other’. But this poor guy was known to several of my friends and thats really brought it into focus. I agree with Ironsharpethiron though that this feud seems to be just a glorified drug-turf war, but who is buying these drugs? The same middle-class students i hang around with who seem no connection between the scumbags they buy their stuff off and the ones that they complain about in the city. Or the slightly wealthier ones who finance these families with their cocaine habit. I never thought I would ever agree with the man about anything, but Michael McDowell was right when he said that Middle class people need to see a link between their doing lines after a dinner parry and the man found in a dump with a bullet in his head.

i %100 agree...the problem begins with the middle classes getting their kicks...without thinking of where the money ends up...whoever reads this and uses "soft" drugs..think about it

I knew Shane from when he played rugby with Shannon and from nights out around Limerick. He was a great guy and words cannot describe how upsetting it is that scum can take a good person from his friends and family.

He was someone that gave and had alot more to give!

What have the people responsible for this cowardly crime ever done for anyone, its time enough is enough and these people are punished! I was at a party in the same estate about 2 months ago, it could just have easily been me while I waited for my taxi hime, next time it could be you or your brother or your son or father.

People of Limerick need to unite for Shane and get the people responsible, why should a small few dictate our streets? Power in numbers!

Shane, RIP!

I'm afraid the problem is deeper than a drugs war. We're talking about defective people who would kill for fun, even if they had no drug-dealing business.

Shane was a lovely, cheery bloke, and many people will miss him very much. He was a good rugby player, and very easy going. All blog readers should take a moment to pray to God that Shane, an innocent victim of this evil drugs war will go straight up to God in heaven, and we can also ask God to comfort Shane's family. Such a cruel blow to a young man, whose family have already had more than their share of misfortune. I agree that the prisons are far too easy on these killers, doing time is merely seen as a rite of passage, or a school of learning for these young psychopaths, they have no fear of prison, and scoff at the lame Gardai

Timely reminder that one of the leading exponents of crime in the city, whose "gang" are prime suspects in this horrific murder has recently had a ten year sentence for, among other acts, attempting to bring a rocket-launcher into the city to fire and destroy guard van carrying a State witness to give evidence against him.

Our bleeding heart Judges decided he should have three years lobbed off his sentence.

All fine lambasting ordinary people for not doing enough, but how despairing this has become, when the Judiciary see fit to put these scum back out on the streets ignoring the mandatory sentences that our law demands.

It's not just the scumbags we need to get rid of.

And yes, Kate, you are right, nothing will come of this bar another statistic. Our two Ministers from this city are far too busy. One solving Chads' civil war while warlords are killing with impunity here and the other clocking up airmiles all over Africa personally doling out aid rather than letting the agencies do it.

officers would be able to succesfully protect their lives

it is sad to say but i agree with kate, the ppl of ireland have developed a method of turning the other eye, these scumbags own the streets to the stage that even if there were witnesses to every crime chances are a lot of these witnesses would not come forward as no1 would believe that the crime PREVENTION

I am disgusted by this and my sympathies to Shanes family and friends. Is he, by any chance, related to Mary Harney's husband, Brian Geoghegan. As far as I know, he is one of the Geoghegans who owned the maternity home on O'Connell ave.

The people of Limerick need to take back to city from the scum that live here. Untill the punishment reflects the crime commited these scum bags will keep destroying our city. The shit of this city know the law better that any decent hard working person. I say name and shame these scum before they kill another innocent person.

My deepest sympathies to Shane Geoghegan's family and friends. RIP

firstly i was to start by giving my sincerist sympathys to the Geoghan family, and also to his girlfriend. these people have suffered and will suffer for the rest of their lives as a result of the vicious, murderous society which limerick has become.

The political and legal system in this country have an awful lot to be responsible for. they are now saying that it is upto to the public to inform the gardai of any suspicions that they may have, now i am sorry would you? they are not providing a safe society so why would anyone expose themselves to be opened to that type of fear or malicious attacks or unfortunatly in shanes sake murder. If their were proper and effective systems in place the public may feal safer. it isnt just places like southill and moyross that need community gardai, the majority of the people causing the trouble are being moved next door to you and me. people no longer feel safe, and it is sick to think that it has come to this for something to be done! even at this it will be the topic fort a few months and then it will like everything else in limerick fade. i hope now that limerick as a whole will rally around and fight this rapidly growing problem and give the back bone of support for the goeghan family and shanes girlfriends who at this time and for a long time will be grieving and unable to tackle this head on.

after brian fitzgeralds murder we were promised a zero tolerence, and does this say zero tolerance to you, because it sure as hell doesnt to me! The fear of limerciks citizens has now become a harsh reality and just let this be the end, please.

Shane, rest in peace, you will be sadly missed.

I am shocked by this shocked and saddened. I know it is selfish of me but this 'feud' had always seemed far removed from my life and i was of the opinion that 'sure they are only killing each other'. But this poor guy was known to several of my friends and thats really brought it into focus. I agree with Ironsharpethiron though that this feud seems to be just a glorified drug-turf war, but who is buying these drugs? The same middle-class students i hang around with who seem no connection between the scumbags they buy their stuff off and the ones that they complain about in the city. Or the slightly wealthier ones who finance these families with their cocaine habit. I never thought I would ever agree with the man about anything, but Michael McDowell was right when he said that Middle class people need to see a link between their doing lines after a dinner parry and the man found in a dump with a bullet in his head.

old dubliner......shame on you.

You have posted one of the lowest comments seen here for a long time.

What kind of sicko are you at all, trying to use this murder as an excuse to attack Sinn Fein?

Less of your dirty politics and show some respect for the murdered man please.

just a comment on this but he was'nt in the wrong place at the wrong time it was his own Neighbourhood. id blame the H.S.E for letting out these houses to the walking scum of this earth that brought misery to our society. but it just seems thats the way nowadays!!!

I hate to say it, but its true, this city is a shithole and is getting worse :(

:( I knew Shane this is awful :( my sympathies to the family :(

Round up all these so called hard men put them on a Island.Dont feed them let them kill each other.I am sorry for this man friend of mine was attacked not in Limerick but in Cork her and boyfriend were beaten now are terrified to leave their house.Is this a free society?

i played gaelic footbal with this young lads brother,my sympathies to u and your family,..but what i have to get off my chest is that a lot of people have to have a look at themselves in the mirror this morning,and that is everyone who has paid in some form for drugs...if everybody just stoppped using recreational drugs it would hit the scum in their pockets,the majority have been silent long enough..maybe we have been too scared,intimidated in our own homes to do anything about it...its true what tom says,the next time it could be me or you in any area at any time..puts chills in you.

Condolences to the Geoghegan family.

I just wanna say that this is the lowest of the low. Killing an innocent person for thinking he was a known drug dealer. I think it's time the Government copped the fuck on here. The Gardai can't do much. They are not fully equipped. The court system is a total and utter joke. I think, in my personal opinion, what needs to be done here is the Government should bring in an elite military unit from outside of Ireland and have these guys go after and kill these mindless scumbags. That's the only way you can ever get rid of this problem. These people don't care about anyone only themselves and the money they make off the drugs they sell. I think the Gardai know who is dealing but they are too afraid to go after them. It's about time this problem was fully addressed. How many more innocent lives have to lost before this is dealt with????

Nothing will come of this . Society has broken down.A band aid wont fix it.I bet Ireland will be a lot more violent in the years to come.Can anyone in their heart say i am wrong.

@old dubliner

This site is not pro-Sinn Fein or pro-any other political party.

The fact that sinn fein's members in Limerick have kept the blog informed about their activities and sent us their statements is reflected in that they get published.

Two weeks ago I sent every sitting councillor and all the major political parties details on the local election project I am trying to get going. Not one single city or county councillor replied, not a single one. So I would ask that you refrain from accusing us of political bias as this is a bald faced lie.

i agree with bobadam .squid i said it before on here that people need to stand up for them selves and take back there communitys .like they did in dublin and u ridiculed me saying dublin was diffrent than limerick cos it was bigger and limerick is smaller .it wasnt a whole city that changed it was local communitys that changed a city ........yes theres drugs and gangs in dublin and yes theres shootings and murders .........but its still difrent from limerick because you have community activists getting together and letting theese people know that we know what your doing and we wont put up with it any more .just one more thing some thing i have noticed on this blog in the past theres a lot of pro sin fein pieces done .if this was dublin you can bet your bollox they would be organising marches on the houses of known drug dealers and scum.so why is limerick diffrent?
you dont need to be a genius to work it out

I went to school in the Crescent with Shane. Played rugby with him. Was born in his grandmother's (who is also no longer with us)nursery on O'Connell avenue. Shane wouldnt harm a fly! A gentle giant wouldnt do him any justice. This isnt a case of certain people not supposed to be living in certain neighbourhoods. The political and legal system in this coutry has failed us!!!!!!!!!! The cost of the next tribunal which will lead to no outcome would probably be enough to build a new prison somewhere in this country. A prison that would actually resemble a prison and not a hotel you cant leave. Ideally people sentenced to this establisment would serve a realistic sentence and one that reflects thier crime. Life should mean life!! Shane died because of a problem that has manifested itself in poorer neighbourhoods for years- good people live there too,except now the problem has spread when it should have been take care of years ago with realistic prison sentences. Any one of us could be next. You,me,one of our kids. The powers that be in this country have to wake up now and smell the coffee!!! Things WILL NOT get any better!!!!!! This is the reality!!!

@ bobadam i have to take issue with you on the rent allowance comment bob there are plenty of people out there on ra. think of the elderly, disabled and people who may be out of work due to the downturn in the economy. i think we all play our part in this drug epidemic from the person who turns a blind eye to there neighbour who has a nice lifestyle without any means of income to the young professional who buys a bit of coke at the weekend to the bouncer who might sell it to him for a bit of extra cash to provide for his family right upto the judges who give light sentences for anyone who is caught with drugs or any feud related crimes. my thoughts are with this youngfella's family tonight what a terrible tragedy for them.

Link below, second name on the team, this list shows the innocence and human side to this brutal murder.

http://garryowenrugby.com/glee...

this is the most outrageous incident to occur in my memory. i think the people of limerick need to stand up now to these thugs and do some thing about it the gardai seem incapable. this could have being you me anyone. my heart goes out to shanes family. something needs to be done. we were promised zero tolerance after brian fitzgeralds death. the situation is only getting worse

evil bastards. they would kill your kids for looking at them wrong. i hope there is a god so they have to face him before they go to HELL

as i said caveman it dosent matter where you live anymore it was the MWHB that gave these scumbags the freedom to go where they liked and paid for the privilage to have drug pushers to live on anyones door step. i am a hard working man living in moyross for the last 22 years with 3 years left on a mortgage thats not worth a fuck, givin up now have to get up at 6 for work. nite all.

If the following sucessfull legislation was in place here, maybe that young man would be still alive today. we need change and not someone like willie o'dea who will go to the opening of an envelope and waffle quite a bit. we are in recession yet the one industry thats growing is the drugs trade in Ireland. And before anyone decides to tell me that Drugs should not carry the same sentence as murder look at just what happened. Try tell that lads poor family. It all filters down.

THE ROCKEFELLER DRUG LAW

The Rockefeller drug laws is the term used to denote the statutes dealing with the sale and possession of "narcotic" drugs in the New York State Penal Law. The laws are named after Nelson Rockefeller, who was the state's governor at the time the laws were adopted. Rockefeller, a staunch supporter of the bill containing the laws, signed it on May 8, 1973.

Under the Rockefeller drug laws, the penalty for selling two ounces (approximately 56 grams) or more of heroin, morphine, "raw or prepared opium," cocaine, or cannabis, including marijuana (these latter two being included in the statute even though they are not "narcotics" from a chemical standpoint), or possessing four ounces (approximately 113 grams) or more of the same substances, was made the same as that for second-degree murder: a minimum of 15 years to life in prison, and a maximum of 25 years to life in prison. The original legislation also mandated the same penalty for committing a violent crime while under the influence of the same drugs, but this provision was subsequently omitted from the bill and was not part of the legislation Rockefeller ultimately signed. The section of the laws applying to marijuana was repealed in 1979, under the Democratic Governor Hugh Carey.

The adoption of the Rockefeller drug laws gave New York State the distinction of having the toughest laws of its kind in the entire United States — an approach soon imitated by the state of Michigan, which, in 1978, enacted a "650-Lifer Law," which called for life imprisonment, without the possibility of parole for the sale, manufacture, or possession of at least 650 grams (approximately 1.45 pounds) of cocaine or any Schedule I or Schedule II opiate.

yes, the next time it could be me or you. wehat a f*cking sh*thole this town is!

shane was a great guy, really happy, funny lad i will miss him and i know i won't be the only 1 who does.
the people if you could call them people who carried out this sick act, deserve something a lot worse than the chance to go to jail where they will meet more of their own kind and come out even worse than before they went in. someone has to take responsibility for this, limerick is a joke of a city with a police force who were either too affraid or stupid to put these filthy animals behind bars before the set out with guns and killed an innocent man. i bet this animals are well know criminals with records as long as my arm.
what happened to zero tollerance? it should be 3 strikes and that's you behind bars for life, regardless of how small the crime.
prevention is better than cure.

now thIs is the start of innocent people being killed because of us the public turning a blind eye to whats REALLY going on out there, wake up everybody and look outside your house and see what is really going on in your estate,forget about moyross, southill, weston and all the estates you associate as drug dealing places! your all wrong its on your doorstep and you dont or want to know it, has your neighbour bought a new car but dosen't seem to be employed? Too long we have turned a blind eye to whats really going on in your neighbourhood and now its up to YOU to watch and make that vital phonecall. remember you may have babies and just think of the future you are creating for your children/grandchildren if you dont make that vital call, your own child/grandchild may end up a drug user/supplier, it dosent matter where you live anymore there is no more corporation drug dealing estates its all over the place, the midwestern health board are to be thanked for that for giving these scumbags rent allowence to live in respectable areas. Look around and ask yourself do you know your new neighbour and do you know what they do for a living?

Sincere sympathy to Mr. Geoghan's family, this is just horrendous.
What lots of citizens have been fearing for decades has just materized.
Rest In Peace.

So they want to "regenerate" the city, the parts that need "regeneration"............How is that going to solve the problem of the scumbags, who now are shooting people not even connected to this Bullsh*t so called Fued (really a turf war for drug sales). Are they going to lay down there weapons because of the beutifull flower beds that their horses can eat and trample. Next time it could be you or me. My heart goes out to that young mans family. When the law is finished making an ass out of itself i.e. the courts, life should mean life. Jail time should not be peppered with tv's and other luxuries. This was goin to happen eventually where the violence has spillt out to the innocent. We have stepped over the line, it's down hill from here to new depths we have never seen before, mark my words.

Gardai now saying they do not believe there was a motive for the killing. Poor chap. As anon says, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Deepest symapathies to this young man's family. this guy was innocent and murdered by scum.

Watch this space - rumour has it that this young innocent man was related thru marriage to a top politician, if so the shit will really hit the fan. Its about time these gangs were taken out -pity a young lad had to lose his life.

Victim is Shane Geoghegan. Really nice quiet guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The guys name was Shane Geoghan. Not sure what's happened but this guy was definitely not associated with any of the feuding families.

RTE are reporting that it was a case of mistaken identity.