Comments on: Investigation into Dooradoyle shooting

By: mark ward

mark ward — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:03:48 +0000

ABOVE PARAGRAPH..when i read back it sounded differnet. what i was pointing out in the text.. was..
‘Ok lets have the tough way of thinking and lock up all the scumbags. as shooting is something i hate to hear about. but try putting all the thousands who use drugs to jail,
.. yes a march should be organised, for anyone who uses a weapons to shoot somone..in cities and towns and the scumbags should be locked up and the key thrown away. when it comes to harder drugs that have destroyed lives.. i had to rewrite the ABOVE. as it sounded different when i read back. what I was pointing out was to take away the scumbags power we have to treat the people who take harder drugs, some come from very harsh backround, some do it for money. it’s endless and hurtfull. but in regards to cannabis it is noting compared to cocaine,herion medication drugs ect..and if the ministers decided to tackle this buy introducing,, LOOK this UP Hope.Net. cannabis outlets that would have a safe quiet athmosphere. governments should control this through our doctors and advice to drug users, and clean up this mess, make profit rather than the gangsters, do it correct! through even the medical board, advice centres from the tax-money? rather than go on playing COWboys&Indians, before more lives are ruined through DIRTY drugs, and gang control. oh and sorry my wording isn’t perfect here.. this isn’t because that i smoke cannabis. It’s from a disorder caused by violence that nearly killed me. i smoke because it helps me cope. like many i know who also enjoy cannabis to relax, compared to the horrid after effects of eating crap fast food on your body,also the hang-over feeling from alcohol that has a huge number of deaths compared to a bit of good grade cannabis, if only…

By: mark ward

mark ward — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:22:13 +0000

also the people i’m talking about that make up the thousands, was from our last cannabis march in May Dublin city.. through my years mostly people i mett in all honesty that don’t like pubs, and prefer a joint or cannabis tea at home, are people in all honesty people in good prfessions, that like to chill out.. ok it’s true we have youths who buy it as i see them smoking on college grounds, but at least they are studying.. then on the bus last week, it was bad, as this lad who looked like he could be a herion user lit a a spliff ..it was alwafull as it was that toxic smell of hashish, mixed with chemicals. as our ministers don’t want to control this by legalsing god knows what the youths today are doin to their health.. Ok lets have the tough way of thinking, lock up scumbags that shoot is something i hate to hear. but try putting all the thousands, and i mean thousands of people in jail.. the cost of that ?? on tax ? come on ..look up on line for example in Brussels.. cannabis laws.. i was there, it feels much safer, but every where has it’s crime, all cities. it would reduce crime here in fact, not completly, but it would bring justice, and also from taxing cannabis would bring wealth.. why ? http://www.indymedia.ie/article/82410
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0206/breaking44.htm
http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/articles.php?drart=145&issid=12
it has it’s customers ? just like pubs have theirs.. WE dont all dabble with hard drugs.. cannabis isn’t and shouldn’t be a crime. i’m 25 i have a good job i know many of my friends from work who smoke a joint to relax after a long day at the office. but we all feel the same about the stuff we buy, as what most cannabis users somke is not natural,it’s called soapbar, 100 per ounce, last 4weeks if u just have at the weekends only.. due to it not been legal.. also i have mett close friends in good professions, who smoke to relax,study,go hinking,night in with friends dinner, wine & joint, and movies to giggle , conversation..

By: mark ward

mark ward — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:56:49 +0000

we are in a recession.. According to Gardai Siochana figures this failed war on cannabis has cost the state an estimated 10 billion euros over the last 30 years. …
alone in 2008 there had been a total of 25million.. can we not just accept people smoke it, but at least legalise it like Amsterdam,Spain u can grown your own 1female plant at home, Italy, San Fran..there are 500 outlets you can buy cannabis..as there is in reality a huge market for it ? or should we keep telling people theey are Bad Bad BAd.. and the gangsters can sell toxic crap..where the government and ministers..if they they legalise it, well at least 40million yearly on tax ? let licence owners decide their own closing time ? we could change our strict laws ? accept.. make money and give we humans propper smokes.? build a big outdoor heated pool along the Quays, Liffey, something 24hour +luas.. later..keep it busy and people will stay and cannabis cafes will bring wealth.. have an age limit of over 21s ? it would FOR SURE Help this recession??? am i right, or tell me… bad idea ? look people will still choose to do what they wanna do ? why not the government accept and make it safer ??? accept..? the mature users ? think about ? am i a bad person because i have so far mett thousands of people of the years who enjoy a joint > ?? arrrghhhhhhh

By: norma st leger

norma st leger — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:21:27 +0000

lest we lose hope and cease commentry on this thread i would like to refer you all to the followng articles; irish times sat 15th nov front pg of week-end review written by conor lally
sun independent 16th nov pg 26 jim cusack
sun independent 16th nov pg 27 cathal mccarthy
sun independent 16th nov brendan oconnor
last and least minister willie odeas contribution on pg 27 of sunday independent 16th nov which contains several engish language words but zero meaning, his statics stated are very contradictory to the article written by jim cusack in yesterdays irish times, i can’t confirm as i am largely dependent on the quality and accuracy of the media for my information.
i would hope that in the coming weeks and months we, on this site will continue to “brainstorm” in shanes memory, and like in 1998, the summary murder and execution of veronica guerin brought about a number of changes, albeit slowly, it was the constant pressure from her friends, family and the people insistent on change made this happen.
we need to examine the mind set of the “drug dealing” fraternity, many good points are made in above articles, but what we need to understand are their weaknesses not their strengths, because we know their strengths lie in numbers, fear, bullying and greed, but that is also where a lot of their weaknesses also lie…..they have obviously accumulated vast sums of money, drive flash amour plated vehicles, but still live in houses of relativly low value, why? is that a comfort zone? they are familiar with their surroundings, neighbours etc, they have the instinct and knowledge of who to recruit and who to intimidate this is both clever and stupid, but informative, they are’nt comfortable dealing with unknown entities, they are uneducated, unworldly (as said in articles) they are clever and devious and educated in what they do…..the underworld, they require the back up of the like minded people they surround themselves with, therefore they lack the courage and confidence to stand alone, therefore they are not independent integrated humans, and rather than slag them off as the dehumanised scumbags they are, we need to rise above that and find the confidence and courage in what we have in strength that will, with our dogged persistence ,overcome what they seem intent to bring to bear on our society

By: Hope

Hope — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:05:23 +0000

The front pages of every newspaper at the moment are revealing who is responsible for this murder. Why not apply the same charge as in the recent toddler death in London:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/tm_headline=baby-p-trial-two-convicted-for-toddler-s-torture-
death&method=full&objectid=20888326&siteid=115875-name_page.html

The killers were charged as follows:

The mother’s 32-year-old boyfriend and the family’s lodger Jason Owen, 36, of Bromley, Kent, were yesterday convicted at the Old Bailey of CAUSING OR ALLOWING THE BOY’S DEATH in August last year.”
Surely this applies in this instance?

By: angry

angry — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:57:52 +0000

@hoof, this is the same guy who got 9 months last August for using a fraudulent pasport, that was 3 months ago yet he fail to turn up to court 23/10. My question is if he got 9 months last august why was he not already in prision and did he do any time from that conviction last august.

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:15:52 +0000

I’m in England and heard about this via a relative who lives in Limerick.
I’ve been to Ireland a few times to visit this year and I got to say that your country is in a state.
The Garda are a joke – the UK police are pretty crap but yours don’t seem to give a shit.
On one visit I stumbled across the Limerick court house and asked two scruffy press photographers for directions. There was a large Garda presence and piles of scumbags everywhere and I asked the press men what was going on – is Al Capone in court today or something. They replied that it was just another day in Limerick!
Ireland – your politicians need to get their act together. Zero tolerance – sort it out. You are a good people (unlike our other neighbours the French) but you’re heading the wrong way.
Break this before it breaks you.

By: Hoof

Hoof — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:36:47 +0000

@angry. Very astute observation. Although I’d imagine his publicly paid for legal-eagle might well have advised a ten-month stretch might be worth doing to get out of the public gaze, or imo, and knowing the cowardly bastard that he is, a chance to avoid an opportunistic attack by the people his gang failed to kill last week. Not one of this breed has so much as a bullet graze afaik.

So it’s little wonder the McCarthy-Dundons, their allies up in Clonlong and the little-shit footsoldiers think they rule the roost when a person who is described by the Garda top-brass as one of Irelands most dangerous and habitual criminals can walk the streets laughing his cock off at the law after being convicted on 34 charges. I’m not sure if the same guy was the one using a fraudulently obtained passport but even that serious crime was another wrist-slap job.

By: angry

angry — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:29:22 +0000

I would be more worried that Dundon handed himself in, looks more like an alibi for something that is going to happen, remember the Ryan bros handed themselves in to a Garda station up the country an hour or so after Kieran Keane killed, watch this space!

By: norma st leger

norma st leger — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:28:18 +0000

do any of you feel like i do this morning……when i heard the news that g.dundon turned himself in to the gardai on foot of a commital order handed down last july……i’m confused, 34 driving offences, sentenced and signed on the dotted line july 08, so 3 and a half months he was strolling about, i always defend the gardai, always claim they don’t have the legislation to back them up, i’m obviously getting old but even more naive, does the commissioner have an answer? and he turned himself in? so that forgive me for presuming…but is he looking for the protection of the gardai? irony, hypocrisy won’t cover it, does anyone else want an answer? mr. odea, the larger limerick community have stood behind you for a very long time, you are the minister of defence, what does your title actually mean? you are humiliating your supporters, you are a downright disgrace, if you ever recieve another vote to place you in a position of representing the people it will be a national shame, the people who put you where you are want an answer,