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		<title>By: noelheavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>noelheavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Browne, this is no longer about your personal feelings towards the bishop. The matter has now gone way beyond &quot;best practices in child protection.&quot; The bishops have collectively shown a woeful inadequacy to lead and have brought the Church in Ireland into total disrepute even amongst the faithful. The Catholic Church is now being dragged through the gutter as a direct result of the actions of the bishops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Browne, this is no longer about your personal feelings towards the bishop. The matter has now gone way beyond &#8220;best practices in child protection.&#8221; The bishops have collectively shown a woeful inadequacy to lead and have brought the Church in Ireland into total disrepute even amongst the faithful. The Catholic Church is now being dragged through the gutter as a direct result of the actions of the bishops.</p>
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		<title>By: BockTheRobber</title>
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		<dc:creator>BockTheRobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Noel Heavey, They are not sick.  They are criminals.  The church&#039;s assumption that the child rapists were sick is part of what caused the problerm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@ Frank Browne, it&#039;s time not only for Murray but also for all the other clergy to be kicked out of our schools and hospitals.  They have no business hiring and firing teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Noel Heavey, They are not sick.  They are criminals.  The church&#39;s assumption that the child rapists were sick is part of what caused the problerm.</p>
<p>@ Frank Browne, it&#39;s time not only for Murray but also for all the other clergy to be kicked out of our schools and hospitals.  They have no business hiring and firing teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murray is a disgrace and the people need to make a stand and say enough is enough with these hypocritical, evil so called holy men. Im ashamed and embarresed to call myself a Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murray is a disgrace and the people need to make a stand and say enough is enough with these hypocritical, evil so called holy men. Im ashamed and embarresed to call myself a Catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: frankbrowne</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankbrowne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have known Bishop Murray as a student back in the 80&#039;s, he was at all times a caring and impressive teacher. He has admitted his errors in handling child abuse cases and has learned lessons on what is best child protection practice. If he now has learned these lessons and is an advocate for best practices in child protection what purpose would his resignation serve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have known Bishop Murray as a student back in the 80&#39;s, he was at all times a caring and impressive teacher. He has admitted his errors in handling child abuse cases and has learned lessons on what is best child protection practice. If he now has learned these lessons and is an advocate for best practices in child protection what purpose would his resignation serve.</p>
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		<title>By: noelheavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>noelheavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Catholic and take my faith seriously. I am truly ashamed to-day of the way my Church has been led in the grave matter of clerical sexual abuse. No matter how loathsome and heinous the crimes committed by the actual perpetrators one can somehow grasp that at least these must be very sick individuals at some level. No such excuse can be made for the bishops named in the Report and that is what makes their decades of cover-up and collusion all the more despicable They should resign without further delay. Apologies are no longer enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Catholic and take my faith seriously. I am truly ashamed to-day of the way my Church has been led in the grave matter of clerical sexual abuse. No matter how loathsome and heinous the crimes committed by the actual perpetrators one can somehow grasp that at least these must be very sick individuals at some level. No such excuse can be made for the bishops named in the Report and that is what makes their decades of cover-up and collusion all the more despicable They should resign without further delay. Apologies are no longer enough.</p>
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		<title>By: evindaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>evindaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Predators dressed in Priests Clothing&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.butlerreport.com/Opinion/BREd_clerical_report.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.butlerreport.com/Opinion/BREd_cleric...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predators dressed in Priests Clothing<br /><a href="http://www.butlerreport.com/Opinion/BREd_clerical_report.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.butlerreport.com/Opinion/BREd_cleric.." rel="nofollow">http://www.butlerreport.com/Opinion/BREd_cleric..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeference</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letter to editor for your consideration&lt;br&gt;Mike Ference&lt;br&gt;817 Worthington Avenue&lt;br&gt;Clairton, PA  15025&lt;br&gt;412-233-5491&lt;br&gt;Email:  &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Ference@icubed.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ference@icubed.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;War Tactics Should Be Applied to Abusers and to Those Who Offered Protection&lt;br&gt;By Mike Ference&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Every day brings new evidence that we no longer live in a civilized and principled society. The worst part, it usually concerns another case of sexual misconduct involving a Catholic priest, young children and a church hierarchy that helped to cover up the case. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The recent report that four Dublin archbishops conspired with Irish police and elected officials to methodically cover up the acts of dysfunctional sex freaks – cloaked as Catholic priests – clearly suggests that Catholic Church Hierarchy have certainly outlived any usefulness to society.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As always, the Catholic Church was more concerned with concealing the crimes, avoiding any public outrage, safeguarding its reputation and protecting its cash rather than helping God’s most precious commodity – His beloved children.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To be sure, media pressure and public wrath and billions of dollars in pr fees, legal fees and settlements internationally have inspired displays of contrition from plenty of red hats. But as more and more cases of abuse — and cover-up — continually come to light, one begins to wonder whether the pope and his entourage of so-called men of God should be considered any more trustworthy than, say, Saddam Hussein. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So — what should be done now for the umpteenth time Catholic Church hierarchy were more concerned with protecting dysfunctional sex freaks than innocent children? Given the level of wreckage and anguish caused in the lives of so many people, it seems appropriate to look to the war on terror for a model strategy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A first prong of attack might involve a Special Forces unit made up of highly skilled and trained military personnel capable of tracking down and obtaining confessions from any current or former priests accused of acts of sexual abuse against children. If rights are violated, if military personnel sometimes go a little too far, so be it. The Catholic Church had ample opportunity to fess up and repent. Those incapable of civilized behavior shouldn’t expect the rights and privileges of civilization. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A deck of cards can be created to help identify hard-to-find priests as well as the disgraceful church leaders who permitted, and in essence, condoned the sexual abuse of young children. Photos of the most deviant and reprehensible church officials accompanied by a list of their offenses will encourage us all to do our patriotic duty in helping the authorities track down suspected priest-terrorists or at least be able to identify the culprits as they come and go freely because their sins where covered up and the time to criminally prosecute has expired.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another option would be to divide the world into territories. A color-code warning system would be established, alerting parents about abusive priests being transferred into their respective regions. Depending on the designated color for a particular region, parents would know whether their children should serve at Mass, go on field trips, or even attend Catholic school that day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To aid this unique war on terror, a pool of money should be collected, not involuntarily from taxpayers, but voluntarily from those decent human beings who believe crimes committed against our children are sins that God takes very seriously. Some of the funds raised could then be turned into outrageously tempting reward sums for information leading to the capture of our targeted criminals. Once the rogue clerics have been imprisoned and forced to talk, I recommend that their confessions be given to someone like Steven Spielberg or George Romero. Hollywood writers and producers could create a blockbuster movie like Roots or Schindler’s List to serve as a bitter reminder that these crimes should never again be permitted to occur. Tom Savini could be hired to recreate the horror on the faces of child actors chosen to play parts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Proceeds from the movie could go to victims of abuse and their families. And no matter how old the crime, compensation would be available. There should be no statute of limitations when the rights of children have been violated by those who lived much of their adult lives perched on a pedestal heightened by the trust of innocent and vulnerable believers. In fact, I would extend compensation to the second and perhaps even third generation of sufferers. It would certainly include siblings denied the experience of growing up with a brother or sister untraumatized by such abuse. And since crimes of abuse tend to echo, it would extend to the victims of the victims as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If all else fails, is it any less rational to declare war on the Catholic Church as part of a war on child abuse than it was to declare war on Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al-Qaeda and apparently had no weapons of mass destruction) as part of a war on terror? How many innocent children have been verifiably lost to this menace — and how many more will be lost if we don’t make a preemptive strike?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As horrific as sexual abuse by priests may be, the perpetrators might merit a more forgiving place if only their superiors had the courage to do the right thing. For a few, counseling and close supervision might have been enough to prevent future abuses. Others clearly required something more intensive — a mental hospital or a prison.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But repeated abuse, as well as willfully hiding the crimes and the criminals — as far as I can see, this brings us much closer to the realm of mortal sin. And the sinners include not just the church hierarchy, but also attorneys who ill-advised parents not to buck the system and take on the Catholic Church, or may even have provided inside information to thwart legitimate cases against the church, law enforcement officials who may have thought it best to warn church officials of pending investigations, and janitors, housekeepers, teachers, and employees of the Catholic Church who kept silent because of concerns about a paycheck, a 401K, a pension, or a fear of standing up to church authorities. God has a place for everyone — and if you abuse children or protect the abusers of children, we can only hope that your place is called hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letter to editor for your consideration<br />Mike Ference<br />817 Worthington Avenue<br />Clairton, PA  15025<br />412-233-5491<br />Email:  <a href="mailto:Ference@icubed.com" rel="nofollow">Ference@icubed.com</a></p>
<p>War Tactics Should Be Applied to Abusers and to Those Who Offered Protection<br />By Mike Ference</p>
<p>Every day brings new evidence that we no longer live in a civilized and principled society. The worst part, it usually concerns another case of sexual misconduct involving a Catholic priest, young children and a church hierarchy that helped to cover up the case. </p>
<p>The recent report that four Dublin archbishops conspired with Irish police and elected officials to methodically cover up the acts of dysfunctional sex freaks – cloaked as Catholic priests – clearly suggests that Catholic Church Hierarchy have certainly outlived any usefulness to society.</p>
<p>As always, the Catholic Church was more concerned with concealing the crimes, avoiding any public outrage, safeguarding its reputation and protecting its cash rather than helping God’s most precious commodity – His beloved children.  </p>
<p>To be sure, media pressure and public wrath and billions of dollars in pr fees, legal fees and settlements internationally have inspired displays of contrition from plenty of red hats. But as more and more cases of abuse — and cover-up — continually come to light, one begins to wonder whether the pope and his entourage of so-called men of God should be considered any more trustworthy than, say, Saddam Hussein. </p>
<p>So — what should be done now for the umpteenth time Catholic Church hierarchy were more concerned with protecting dysfunctional sex freaks than innocent children? Given the level of wreckage and anguish caused in the lives of so many people, it seems appropriate to look to the war on terror for a model strategy. </p>
<p>A first prong of attack might involve a Special Forces unit made up of highly skilled and trained military personnel capable of tracking down and obtaining confessions from any current or former priests accused of acts of sexual abuse against children. If rights are violated, if military personnel sometimes go a little too far, so be it. The Catholic Church had ample opportunity to fess up and repent. Those incapable of civilized behavior shouldn’t expect the rights and privileges of civilization. </p>
<p>A deck of cards can be created to help identify hard-to-find priests as well as the disgraceful church leaders who permitted, and in essence, condoned the sexual abuse of young children. Photos of the most deviant and reprehensible church officials accompanied by a list of their offenses will encourage us all to do our patriotic duty in helping the authorities track down suspected priest-terrorists or at least be able to identify the culprits as they come and go freely because their sins where covered up and the time to criminally prosecute has expired.</p>
<p>Another option would be to divide the world into territories. A color-code warning system would be established, alerting parents about abusive priests being transferred into their respective regions. Depending on the designated color for a particular region, parents would know whether their children should serve at Mass, go on field trips, or even attend Catholic school that day. </p>
<p>To aid this unique war on terror, a pool of money should be collected, not involuntarily from taxpayers, but voluntarily from those decent human beings who believe crimes committed against our children are sins that God takes very seriously. Some of the funds raised could then be turned into outrageously tempting reward sums for information leading to the capture of our targeted criminals. Once the rogue clerics have been imprisoned and forced to talk, I recommend that their confessions be given to someone like Steven Spielberg or George Romero. Hollywood writers and producers could create a blockbuster movie like Roots or Schindler’s List to serve as a bitter reminder that these crimes should never again be permitted to occur. Tom Savini could be hired to recreate the horror on the faces of child actors chosen to play parts.</p>
<p>Proceeds from the movie could go to victims of abuse and their families. And no matter how old the crime, compensation would be available. There should be no statute of limitations when the rights of children have been violated by those who lived much of their adult lives perched on a pedestal heightened by the trust of innocent and vulnerable believers. In fact, I would extend compensation to the second and perhaps even third generation of sufferers. It would certainly include siblings denied the experience of growing up with a brother or sister untraumatized by such abuse. And since crimes of abuse tend to echo, it would extend to the victims of the victims as well.</p>
<p>If all else fails, is it any less rational to declare war on the Catholic Church as part of a war on child abuse than it was to declare war on Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al-Qaeda and apparently had no weapons of mass destruction) as part of a war on terror? How many innocent children have been verifiably lost to this menace — and how many more will be lost if we don’t make a preemptive strike?</p>
<p>As horrific as sexual abuse by priests may be, the perpetrators might merit a more forgiving place if only their superiors had the courage to do the right thing. For a few, counseling and close supervision might have been enough to prevent future abuses. Others clearly required something more intensive — a mental hospital or a prison.</p>
<p>But repeated abuse, as well as willfully hiding the crimes and the criminals — as far as I can see, this brings us much closer to the realm of mortal sin. And the sinners include not just the church hierarchy, but also attorneys who ill-advised parents not to buck the system and take on the Catholic Church, or may even have provided inside information to thwart legitimate cases against the church, law enforcement officials who may have thought it best to warn church officials of pending investigations, and janitors, housekeepers, teachers, and employees of the Catholic Church who kept silent because of concerns about a paycheck, a 401K, a pension, or a fear of standing up to church authorities. God has a place for everyone — and if you abuse children or protect the abusers of children, we can only hope that your place is called hell.</p>
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		<title>By: SISTERMAUREEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SISTERMAUREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that individuals like Donal Murray, the Bishop of Limerick, refuse to resign at this late date only indicated the level of hubris and chutzpah that is part and parcel of so many of these men in hierarchial circles.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While they are tripping over each other in offering apologies they are either unable or unwilling to recognize their contribution to the rottenness that is at the core of the church&#039;s government organization.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is corrupted and they are corrupted.  They system needs to be reformed and rebuilt from the ground up and the groundswell must come from the People of God.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sister Maureen Paul Turlish&lt;br&gt;Victims&#039; Advocate&lt;br&gt;New Castle, Delaware, USA&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:maureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that individuals like Donal Murray, the Bishop of Limerick, refuse to resign at this late date only indicated the level of hubris and chutzpah that is part and parcel of so many of these men in hierarchial circles.  </p>
<p>While they are tripping over each other in offering apologies they are either unable or unwilling to recognize their contribution to the rottenness that is at the core of the church&#39;s government organization.</p>
<p>It is corrupted and they are corrupted.  They system needs to be reformed and rebuilt from the ground up and the groundswell must come from the People of God.</p>
<p>Sister Maureen Paul Turlish<br />Victims&#39; Advocate<br />New Castle, Delaware, USA<br /><a href="mailto:maureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">maureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com</a></p>
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